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Do you think English should be taught entirely in English? That is, do you think it isn't a good idea to use a lot of the first (or mother) language when trying to teach a second language like English to students?

I recently did a presentation on this at a Pearson Longman conference in Seoul, South Korea. You can see the video of the presentation and the powerpoint slides at this link.

 

So what's your opinion?

~ Jason

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Good work Jason,

Have you thought about posting it up in slideshare? It's a handy webspace where you can stick up your presentations (and FULL of great presentations to download and use in class) and perhaps better quality than the Longman site - which is a wee bit jumpy.

If you'd like to see an example, you can visit my presentation which I uploaded there. http://www.slideshare.net/KalinagoEnglish

Also, perhaps make your slides a wee bit more dynamic - photos etc.

Hope useful,
Karenne
www.kalinago-english.com

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Hi Jason,

It was quite nice to see you in your elements, I enjoyed the lecture.

To answer to the question, I do believe it is better to T"E"EE(Teach "entirely"EE). The reason for my choice is that when students know they do not have other alternative than to speak the language they are learning in the class, they prepare more for it and spend more time practicing that language with other students. Beacuse, they want to be prepared in case they have to answer to questions during class. In contrast, when students know they can always ask the teacher questions in their mother language, they do not make enough effort to try to understand what they were taught in the foreign language, they will always make sure to have a confirmation of their understanding in thier native language. This habit can interfere with their learning capacity, and therefore drag their progressions. But, there is one condition to TEEE; it has to be introduced in the upper elementary school so that the students really have English as second language(ESL) and feel more confortable with it as time goes by. Also, they will not feel overwhelmed with the amount of material to cover, grammar, pronouciation, writing, speaking etc...

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Have you thought about posting it up in slideshare? It's a handy webspace where you can stick up your presentations (and FULL of great presentations to download and use in class) and perhaps better quality than the Longman site - which is a wee bit jumpy.

-kalinago-english

Hi Karenne ~ actually, this presentation is Longman's "property" so to speak, so while I can link to it I can't go putting it into new formats or anything else like that.

Also, perhaps make your slides a wee bit more dynamic - photos etc

Thanks for the feedback, I'll keep it in mind. I've done roughly 200 professional presentations over the years, but unfortunately there isn't always enough time to make the ppt sections "sparkling", so to speak. It hasn't always been one of my stronger points - mainly because of the time factor.

But - ahem - you may want to pay a wee bit more attention to the purpose of the post! What's your opinion on the issue of Teaching English in English? As an experienced teacher, I'm sure other forum members would be interested in your views.

Best wishes,

~ Jason

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when students know they can always ask the teacher questions in their mother language, they do not make enough effort to try to understand what they were taught in the foreign language, they will always make sure to have a confirmation of their understanding in thier native language. This habit can interfere with their learning capacity, and therefore drag their progressions.

-marie

Good point, Marie, and in my experience, very very true.

Thanks for contributing your thoughts!

~ Jason

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I think those two ways of teaching English(Teaching English with English, teaching English with mother tongue)should be combined. Teaching English in mother tongue should be uesd in a very first time. For example, at the very first time when people just started to learn English, knowing what the English word means is very important. In that case, it is more easy to explain what english word means when teacher uses mother tongue language. It is also true with grammar as well.

If a student is well known of English words and is also able to talk in English, teaching English in English can be effective. Because the student can learn intuition in how to use English words and grammar in rightful way while the student listening to a lecture.

First of all, all my theories are available only when teachers can speak English flawlessly. :)

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I enjoyed your presentation about TEE but sometimes I hardly recognized some parts when the audience spoke. Anyway, I think you have a great sense of humor!(I'm not lying!)

Back to the fundamental topic, I think learning foreign language would be the most effective when teaching foreign language in it. That's because, as a person who learned English in almost Korean during secondary school, I have found it has some sorts of limitation such as knowing differences between synonyms. Also without TEE, both teachers and students can't prepare for the new type of English Test which will start in 2013.

However there are some practical problems to be solved. First, many old teachers in schools are not good at speaking English. That means, to start TEE, those teachers should be fired, isn't it? It will cause a CHAOS. Also, there are more than half of students in school who don't understand English-they can read words and sentences in English but they can't catch what teacher is saying. For example, when I was in the first grade in high school, my Enlgish techer asked, "Why are you late for this class? What did you do?" to a student. It's not a difficult question but she didn't answer at all.

(Maybe it was a little bit strange and topsy-turvy, I feel sorry about that.) Therefore, my conclusion is that TEE should be taken as soon as possible but TEEE should be sublated. To make a great Enlgish class and maximize the effectiveness in Enlgish class, TEE with mother toungue would be the best answer.

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I agree with some parts of your opinion like there are limitations that Teaching English in English by non-native speakers. But I don't think it is good idea that many old teacher should be fired because of their ability not to be fluent and not to know about specific English grammar or intonation, synonym etc. Ppl who don't have enough ability to teach students should be fired. That is right and no doubt to be done, But teachers are not just people who teaches information. If teachers are elected by their ability to speak English only, Anyone who wants to be employed can be a teacher as a job ,not caring who s/he is and characters s/he have. I agree that there are sorts of problems that can't covered by non-native teachers. But that doesn't mean they have to be fired.

English usage in real life ,at least korea, are very limited and there are not many ppl who need fluent English like native English because we aren't bilingual. So I think Communicating ability is more important than knowledge of specific English. Like Jeongah said, students who catch their teachers word by english is much less than students who don't. I think Teaching English in korean is unavoidable even though language teaching in mother tongue is not desirable way in learning other language. We don't have enough teacher or sources whatever to cover what needed in education system.

Did you get what I said? I don't know what I said either...
Anyway I think It is good topic to talk about Teaching English in English each other.

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On joining this forum last week, the first thing I saw was the video of your presentation about TEE. I enjoyed it with keen interest. And just as
jeongahhan says (from above post), I had the same thought that your sense of humor was great!(I'm not lying, either.)

As watching your lecture, I also thought that TEEE is not that good idea in the case of some students weak in English. Entirely teaching English in English(TEEE) will make students feel more difficult in studying. If all of the students are good at English ; know english word's meaning, grammar etc,, well enough to fully understand what teachers say, it can be effective way to teach them. But, obviously, there would be some students who have difficulty in understanding and catching up with the class even with their mother tongue. Without considering students' level and understanding, by just TEEE, teachers can't make sure to improve students' English ability. So, without thinking over this matter, TEEE just will give more confusion to students. If so, it has no effect. So I believe it may be needed to teach English in English partly with their mother tongue.

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Hi Kwanghoon, Jeong-ah, Sinji and Yunhee,

It's great to see you showing some interest in this issue. As teachers-in-training, the issue of teaching English in English will be a very big one once you get out there and start teaching in actual schools. It's a good idea to start thinking about TEE now, as you are doing.

It's also nice to hear that some of you enjoyed the humor in the presentation. Actually, the audience was very active and fun, which made the presentation good-humored.

Keep up the great work!

~ Jason

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Well, it is right that old English teachers should be fired. But, realistically, I think it is almost impossible to fire all of them. The problem is that old teachers have nothing to do for living except teaching students. I think English education system in Korea is now in the middle of change. We have to consider both sides: young teachers who are designed to be an perfect teacher for TEEE and old teachers who were educated with old English education system. So, I don't think that firing all the old school teachers can be a solution.


I enjoyed your presentation about TEE but sometimes I hardly recognized some parts when the audience spoke. Anyway, I think you have a great sense of humor!(I'm not lying!)

Back to the fundamental topic, I think learning foreign language would be the most effective when teaching foreign language in it. That's because, as a person who learned English in almost Korean during secondary school, I have found it has some sorts of limitation such as knowing differences between synonyms. Also without TEE, both teachers and students can't prepare for the new type of English Test which will start in 2013.

However there are some practical problems to be solved. First, many old teachers in schools are not good at speaking English. That means, to start TEE, those teachers should be fired, isn't it? It will cause a CHAOS. Also, there are more than half of students in school who don't understand English-they can read words and sentences in English but they can't catch what teacher is saying. For example, when I was in the first grade in high school, my Enlgish techer asked, "Why are you late for this class? What did you do?" to a student. It's not a difficult question but she didn't answer at all.

(Maybe it was a little bit strange and topsy-turvy, I feel sorry about that.) Therefore, my conclusion is that TEE should be taken as soon as possible but TEEE should be sublated. To make a great Enlgish class and maximize the effectiveness in Enlgish class, TEE with mother toungue would be the best answer.

-jeongahhan

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I saw your presentation two days ago. It was awesome and I was a little bit pleased that I can understand what you speak!.As for the main subject, I don't agree with TEEE but TEE. If an English teacher teach their student English entirely in English. It is absurd and it is out of our real situation.
There're only a few student who can understand it entirely and if one student can't understand, then it's just making them sleep. Here is another problem, when it comes to teacher's capacity, there're also few teachers who can have a lecture entirely in English. In case of older teachers, the situation is worse. On account of these reasons, I don't agree with TEEE.

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I think its better to use the mother language for kids but for adults in English,so it depends on age.

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Teaching English in English is really important. Teachers do not have to worry about making mistakes in speaking English, because we speak in Korean during daily life we would sometimes stammer.

We have to practice more and more, taking risk. Even they make mistakes, it will be more helpful for students; we can give students confidence in speaking English.

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I completely agree with Kwanghoonchoe.when at school, we were taught(at the begining)in mother language,than our mother language and English were combined.After school I entered the faculty of foreign languages all the courses of English were taught in English.that was a great school!just imagine:all the practical lessons,all the lectures,all the tutors in English!the results were really good!

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